That comment thread over at Bilerico has gone on to reach epic proportions. What Phil Reese had in mind when he started it is anyone’s guess. It’s hard to accept that he had good intentions, given his devious tactics and sly innuendos in the argument. But here is the bigotry at it’s finest:
Gay men can’t have views on this (because they disagree with you, of course!)
Neither can straight men.
Neither can lesbians.
That’s exactly right Phil. You are not part of this minority group, and you get no say in its boundaries or definitions. Would you think you have a say in how the African-American community defines itself? I’ll go out on a limb and say you wouldn’t. The fact that you can’t see this, that you don’t get to have authority over an unrelated minority group, marks you as an out and out bigot. Yes, gay men can be bigots too, they don’t get a free pass under the “politically correct” rules of the game.
Whatever our differences with the transgender politicians, this is for us to sort out. It is not for gays, or lesbians, or anyone else to step in and start barking orders. I am honestly surprised that the TG meekly accept the yoke of their gay “masters”. They spend every day confronting a hostile world, and it doesn’t seem to cool their fiery rhetoric elsewhere. Why do they give gay men a pass when it comes to these kinds of attacks on them and their personal sovereignty?
It’s getting to be a habit, but I’ll post it anyway. This is my final comment on that thread.
Playing the gay card? Sorry but that still doesn’t give you a pass on your misogyny. Men still need to be respectful of women whether they are straight or gay.
And enough with the “who is a woman” crap. This repeated redirection from the real issue is just disingenuous.
People here are equivocating the “woman argument” for the “who is a real transsexual” argument. If you want to argue who is a woman under the law, you should talk to the mainstream. Obviously trying to beat us about the head with transgender dogma isn’t getting you anywhere. If you want to argue about who is a real transsexual, you need to convince scientists and doctors that crossdressing is a birth condition.
The point some of us are trying to make is that the less-than-honest activities of people with regard to the public discussion, and the law are damaging. Not only to real transsexual-born people, but to those in the gay lobby and elsewhere who are trying to manipulate the situation in their own favor.
The public will not accept that crossdressers are the same as women. Using people like me as a battering ram will not work. It will only destroy us. The sooner people see that outrageous behavior for the crass political move that it is, the sooner things get better for everyone.