I think a very important point was brought up in comments and I am going to repost it up here. I am tired of the accusation that we (transsexual history women, whatever you want to call us) are responsible for the way transgender is viewed in society because we point out that it is synonymous with “crossdresser” now. The people who follow the transgender banner have done that all by themselves; the public is not blind. Don’t blame us- it’s your own fault.
It is not we who have defined the “transgender” term. It is the transgender themselves who have done so by their own actions. When someone appears publicly as a full time transvestite, and speaks for the “transgender”, the public sees what it sees. It has nothing to do with us at all, and me simply pointing out the truth is not the cause of their problems.
They need to accept responsibility for their own lives and not put it off on women like us, or on the general public. If they think killing the messenger is going to solve their problems they are sadly mistaken.
If you are concerned about young people under 21 being slammed with a sexual fetishist label because of the stink surrounding transgender, you should take it up with the people who define it to mean everyone from post-transsexual women to sexual fetishists. They, not the formerly silent we, are solely responsible for this sad state of affairs.
What women like me are doing is trying to create an escape route for those who were born with this issue. You don’t have to choose to be “transgender”. Your life is your own, and it does not belong to anyone but you. Forcing young women to submit to the transgender label is disgusting and absolutely outrageous.
Since I can’t post any more on that thread at Pam’s for some mysterious reason, I am going to continue here.
Autumn is fond of quoting the rather few detractors of post transsexual women as proof we are in the same boat as the transgender. She holds up these kinds of statements as proof we are linked:
“[T]hrough surgery and hormones, a transsexual male can be made to look like a woman, including female genitalia and breasts. Transsexual medical treatment, however, does not create the internal sexual organs of a woman, except for the vaginal canal. There is no womb, cervix or ovaries in the post-operative transsexual female.
“[T]he male chromosomes do not change with either hormonal treatment or sex reassignment surgery. Biologically, a post-operative female transsexual is still a male…
…”There are some things we cannot will into being. They just are.”
I submit that when she does this, it is not the Peter LaBarbera’s of the world saying it, it is Autumn herself. She believes this in her heart of hearts. She sees us as the same and thus demands the right to speak for us all. She is no different than the transsexual deniers when it comes to rejecting the science behind the cause of our condition.
So what is it going to be Autumn? Forget the whole who-is-a-woman argument, that is a red herring that has been played like a trump card in transgender arguments for too long, and it’s beginning to stink.
Do you believe that we have a physiological birth condition or not?
I posted a reply on Pam’s House Blend in a thread that has devolved into the usual name calling from the transgender contingent. I’m reposting it here in case it gets deleted because I think it’s an important point at the heart of the dispute with those who follow the transgender banner.
The main issue is Autumn’s reduction of all of transsexualism to a matter of how people “self identify”, despite anyone’s wishes, beliefs, or mounting scientific evidence. Which is to say, Autumn will allow us to be “transwomen”, not women, if we toe the transgender line and accept that Autumn has the power to grant or deny identity based on being a priestess in the transgender order. It’s about power and control.
This isn’t just a problem in the transgender area, its a problem with all dogmatic belief systems. The person who pushes their personal beliefs onto others can’t grasp that they aren’t expressing truth, they are asserting power over other individuals. Their belief system takes on a life of its own and begins to consume people who want nothing to do with it. This is a human failing, not a cause to be celebrated.
Autumn snidely refers to our genitals as a way of asserting that control:
Autumn won’t respect the reality of our lives or the condition we were born with. How can Autumn then demand that others respect the way Autumn “identifies”?
It isn’t about who can afford surgery or who is pretty or any of the other things thrown out there to distract. It is not about waving around credentials to see who is “real”. It is about the very real lives of people who are impacted by the false linking of our birth condition to same sex marriage issues and the whole slew of transgender abuse that is heaped on us by true believers of that religion. It is about the fact that some people are born different and we are being labeled, stigmatized and told we don’t exist. How is what Autumn does to us any different than what Blanchard, Zucker, or any of the rest does to us?
This whole thread is a monument to why it is necessary to recreate a separate category for “transsexual”. Minorities are usually ill-served by people that speak for them who are outside their minority category. Regardless of how people “identify” (what an insulting term), there exists a distinct category of people who suffer from a real biological issue that effectively destroys their lives until it is cured. This is what’s important to remember.
This shouldn’t be about some person’s crusade to raise themselves up at the expense of others. Our lives are more than simply a matter of how we “identify”. Our lives are real. Our issues are our own, and not the same as those who follow the TG path. It is not for the TG to assert their political will over us. And realizing these things, it is not for the TG pushers to destroy that difference in the public mind by erasing distinctions, erasing reality, in order to assure that we are the targets of the same discrimination they face- which wasn’t ours in the beginning and still isn’t to this day.
The fact that we even have to have these discussions at this point is an embarrassment for a transgender movement that is supposed to be based on respect. You want respect, you have to give respect. I’ll begin thinking about respecting the “transgender movement” when it stops talking about my genitals as a joke, or miracle of miracles, at all. They wouldn’t talk about other women’s crotches like that in public, why is it ok to do that to us? The list of grievances go on.
Our lives belong to each of us, individually. No political dogmatist owns any of us. We don’t owe allegiance to anyone, least of all people who would do us harm. And that means everyone here. If a cause is right and just, it doesn’t need to be forced onto other people. People will move toward a shining beacon of their own accord.
Think before you go any further down this path; there is an opportunity for real change that hasn’t existed before now. There are two paths. One leads somewhere good, and one leads nowhere. Which will it be?