Transsexualism has nothing to do sexual liberation. Period.

I think there is something to the whole visibility question when it comes to certain issues, but not others.  Not every paradigm is extensible.  When you have a melting pot situation for example as in New York, people from very different cultures living side by side who are exposed to each other’s habits and traditions are a bit weirded out at first, but become good neighbors over time.

I’m not sure that model extends in all areas though.  When it comes to such a rare occurrence as this transsexual condition, which to me is simply a case of biological variance at birth, the answer isn’t quite so clear as the immigrant example.  With immigrants the threshold for understanding is much lower, and the goal of mutual understanding is shared by both parties.  Everyone acknowledges some basic commonalities to being human and time will settle the matter.

With transsexual it is very different.  Most people don’t really want to understand, and forcing it on them is seen as an attack.  That’s how I view the trans*/TG efforts at education.  Further, the goal of the person trying to cure themselves of transsexual syndrome is simply to be a man or woman like other people.  Exposing yourself as ‘a transsexual’ defeats that goal and interferes with not only your own treatment but also actively reduces the amount of meaningful exchange that can take place right from the outset.  The concept of being transsexual is so foreign to people who don’t experience it that I’m not sure any amount of education could bridge the gulf.  And the whole time you are educating by exposure, the gap between transsexual and ‘normal’ increases as does your somatic, emotional, and cultural dysphoria.  It’s bad all the way around.

We already have very good evidence for what works and what doesn’t.  In the past, as SA ET and Cat have written extensively, we had a very good model for success in treating this problem both medically and socially.  People accomplished it in private and without fanfare, and the government made accommodations where it could.  We were getting very close to having a permanent legal solution to our status that didn’t involve getting put on some government registry, at least here in the US.  The reason we did it quietly wasn’t shame, as alleged by trans* activists.  It is because to be public about  it precludes the treatment!  If everywhere you go, people know you as “that sex change”, you will never simply be a man or woman.   That’s another reason that insults like ‘stealth’, or ‘in secret’ don’t apply here, yet make perfect sense to people who believe they are putting on some kind of show for the public.  This is diagnostic of the transsexual syndrome, and the trans* obfuscation of this central fact is at the heart of our dispute.

Subsequent to that, we have the track record of the other ‘solution’ to examine after the last 20 years of TG activism.  Telling everyone all about transsexual issues such as surgery in lurid detail is a spectacular failure, one so bad that it makes the observer think that it was done on purpose to ruin any chance a born transsexual would have of curing their problem.  We can see negative results everywhere this ‘education’ has been tried.  It interferes with not only our legal rights and privileges, due to the losses we have incurred where transgender activists have set out to represent our interests, but it also get in the way of the very treatment itself.  If everyone knows you have a transsexual background it keeps the issue from resolving, it is an open wound that never heals.  This is what the TG fail to understand about the condition, and I’m not sure anything I or anyone else says can get through to them.  This is one the central things that sets us apart, and defines our condition.

And this is one of the things that drives me to rage when the TG types are playing that game of “you can never escape”.  Monica Roberts especially likes to zero in on some story about a post op getting dissed as a TG, as if to say “We will own you forever”.  As if that event is a selling point for the trans* dogma!

See, I and the others aren’t just some TG’s putting on airs, so the game they are playing is deadly serious to us.  When they say they will own us and use us regardless of our wishes… well what other situation with women does that remind you of?  Whether or not you believe in the biological origin of our condition, people have to admit *something* is driving us to the extremes we go to.  People who aren’t driven to those extremes think its all fun and games when they expose us, to turn us into TG’s like them in the public eye due to the situation they themselves have engineered via propaganda.  It’s just one-upsmanship to them, playing their game of hierarchy.  But the ones who know better, the ones who have been at it all these years, who have met real deal transsexuals in the past and DO know the difference- they are the truly guilty parties.  Shame on them!

What they are actually doing is fucking with something so deep, so primal in us that words fail to describe what we are going through.  When you constantly attack the core of our being, you are going to elicit such a rage that I’m honestly surprised how civil most of us are about this.  Given the kinds of things we’ve had to endure from the likes of Autumn Sandeen talking about our crotches and the outright misogyny of all the long-forgotten TG warriors of the internet over these years I think we are doing pretty well in the civility department.

So you see why I am not really feeling it when people tell me that my issues need to be tied to crossdressing, or that somehow I bear the burden of explaining ‘gender variance’ to the public because we are one big happy queer family?  Does it make a little more sense why I view crossdressing men and women who claim transsexualism as part of their political crusade as invaders and enemies rather than brothers and sisters?

Having them misinform the public and happily go along with the gay appropriation of transsexual syndrome is a direct affront to my personal sovereignty and to the truth itself.  It is an assault on my dignity.  It turns my life and everything I’ve been through into a joke for the titillation of uninformed masses, a gale of laughter at my expense which the trans* crowd joins in gleefully.

It is obvious that the trans* crowd knows literally nothing about transsexual syndrome, and they betray that fact every time they open their mouths on the subject.  At this point I honestly don’t give a shit if Bob the pantywanker has to head back in ‘the closet’ (whatever that’s supposed to mean to a crossdresser) and keep his sexual fetishes to himself from now on.  I don’t care if gay boys who want to play around with straight guys have the ‘right’ to get their licenses and birth certificates changed before surgery.  Their fights are not ours!!  Enough of their sexual liberation at our expense.

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12 Responses to Transsexualism has nothing to do sexual liberation. Period.

  1. Aria Blue says:

    I added a couple links to my twitter feed about the problems in Thailand with TS vs TG. Look at this snippet, about a post-TS woman who is pushing for people like her to have normal female sex designators, and the TG response:

    “It is a stance that has left some transgenders and gays so upset that they called a press conference to counter what a few have described as an “unrealistic” view. While they support the call for transgenders to be able to address themselves as ‘Miss’ or ‘Ms’, they say that they do not want to mislead people into thinking they are biologically born women and have no problems saying that they had sex-change procedures.”

    Once again I say: What the fuck does it matter what transgenders and gays want when it comes to this medical issue?

  2. leighspov says:

    This is a no-brainer.

    Perhaps in a liberated europe where sexuality is more openly discussed, and varience is a bit more understood, the tg paradigm is a seed that can grow.
    This is America though. We are deeply rooted in puritanism here, our many religious beliefs are set in the concrete of a hard won battle to tame a continent and become a nation. Change comes slow and is hard fought, the people are fiercely independent within their own groups of democrats and republicans, christians and muslims, blacks and whites, latinos and irish. A melting pot it was called, yet a melting pot that only simmers is a better description.

    The age of aquarius with its hippies and the so called sexual revolution has gone. It was a wave that took hold of a country, swept away some old beliefs, set into motion the decline of american power, and left in its wake a void that soon became filled with corruption at all levels, and a return to fundamentalism. Charletons of all denominations stepped up to the pulpit and took over from the bullhorns and gatherings of a generation raised on make love not war, free sex, drugs and rock and roll.

    The american people today have no tollerance left for anything or anyone outside their circles. We have, as in days gone past, circled the wagons, our bibles at our side, our guns drawn and our enemies counted. Nobody is getting in, no quarter is given, your either with us or against us. Sex and the discussion of sex has become part of what has gotten America into this mess in the first place.

    The sexual revolution has been dead and buried long past now, and the wave of fundamentalism that continues to grow in its place will have no truck with the old ideals. Thats where the TG and the gays have hit a brick wall, one that is growing in thickness and strength everyday. No amount of battering rams are going to bring it down.

    We though are inside the wall. We are tolerated inside the wall because we are not outside of it hammering on the gates to be let in. And that is the fundamental difference in our unique position, and it’s a major thorn in the side of those that would have the people behind the walls, open their gates and throw us out to a jeering crowd who would lynch us to a tree for what they see as our abandonment of their cause, one they mistakenly believe we belong to.

  3. me says:

    The more I read your blog, the more the same question returns to my brain..

    Given the definitions of sex and gender and how those two things are allegedly formed…what’s the true definition of transgender?

  4. Angel says:

    Aria, once again you’re right on the money. It surprises me how many do not understand how counter-productive the “out and proud” paradigm is for those born with the transsexual condition.

    There is a huge difference between being accepted as a transsexual or transgender person, and simply being regarded as just another woman (or a man). Isn’t the latter the whole purpose of transition… to become just another member of the opposite sex and thereby live a normal life?

    Why is that so hard for some people to understand?

  5. leighspov says:

    Why is that so hard for some people to understand?

    it’s not! .. but it’s not exciting and thats what TeeGee is all about.

    • lisalee18wheeler says:

      Be careful, Leigh. It sounds like you’re equating TG with some sexual feti…oh, wait. That’s already been done. 😉

  6. You should really read up on your history.. Do you know about the Compton’s Cafeteria Riot? It occurred in 1966 San Francisco in at Gene Compton’s Cafeteria — then a restaurant at the corner of Turk and Taylor in the Tenderloin District.

    Transsexuals at that time couldn’t change their birth certificates’ gender markers; couldn’t change their gender markers on state issued ID cards; couldn’t get jobs because there was rampant discrimination against effeminate gay men, drag queens, and people who lived 24/7 as females — which included people (who Virginia Prince tagged as “transgenderists”), and transsexuals; and were subject to arrest and prosecution under the charge of “female impersonation.” And too, they were subject to plain ol’ police harassment for being different.

    Glide Memorial United Methodist Church launched what History Professor Susan Stryker has described as “one of the most daring social initiatives”: The Council on Religion and the Homosexual (CRH), the “first ecumenical organization to bring the problem of antigay discrimination to the attention of liberal protestant churches.”

    Glide Memorial United Methodist Church played a significant role in gay and transgender history — especially for transsexuals. The church was instrumental in helping form the group Vanguard — a group of gay and trans youth working to improve their living conditions. Vanguard’s first political action was picketing the Evan Compton’s Cafeteria to protest the establishment treating transgender customers so poorly. Vanguard had been having their meetings at Compton’s Cafeteria, and tension developed between the cafeteria’s management and Vanguard members.

    Vanguard members had recently been subject not only to harassment by police, but discriminatory practices by management at Compton’s Cafeteria.

    It all boiled over in August, 1966, in a riot…in an uprising. The aftermath of the uprising changed the Tenderloin.

    One of the things that changed for transsexuals just before the Compton’s Cafeteria Riot was that Dr. Harry Benjamin’s book, The Transsexual Phenomenon, had been recently published, and the cross-gender experience of transsexuals became a medical condition to be treated with therapy, hormones and genital reconstruction surgery. Dr. Harry Benjamin began treating patients in San Francisco.

    His clinic for the first time provided real treatment for transsexuals, as well as identification cards that listed transsexuals according to their target sex, not according to the sex that was on their original birth certificates.

    Transsexuals of Vanguard for the first time saw an opportunity for acknowledgement that transsexualism was a real medical condition, and that they should have an opportunity for treatment — that they should no longer be subject to police harassment; of state government considering them to be “female impersonators.” That Harry Benjamin had just begun spending part of each year in San Francisco treating transsexuals was one of the contributing factors to why the riot occurred — transsexuals saw a need for a change on how they were treated.

    After the riot, the police appointed Officer Elliot Blackstone as community liaison with those who lived in San Francisco, and he began to work with gay and trans people as citizens who deserved to be left unmolested by police harassment. In a change of how police treated people in San Francisco’s Tenderloin district in the aftermath of the riot, effeminate gay men, drag queens, “transgenderists,” and transsexuals were finally given space to be themselves without constant police harassment, and given the opportunity to get jobs outside of prostitution. And for transsexuals — well, they’re path for treatment for their transsexualism as a medical condition became a real possibility, verses the previous choice of reparative therapy that was meant to “cure” transsexuals from their transsexualism.

    The riot by those youth of Vanguard — the effeminate gay male youth, the drag queens, “transgenderists,” and transsexuals — made space for all of the gender outlaws in San Francisco’s Tenderloin District.

    To quote from KQED’s write-up on the documentary Screaming Queens — a documentary which tells the story of the Compton’s Cafeteria Riot:

    The documentary goes on to show the connection between transgender activism and the larger social upheavals affecting the United States in the 1960s: the civil rights and sexual liberation movements, the youth counterculture, urban renewal, and Great Society antipoverty programs. “Glide Memorial Methodist Church first reached out to the transgender community in these years,” the Rev. Ed Hansen explains, “because of new thinking about the church’s role in society.” Amanda St. Jaymes and Tamara Ching, both transsexual activists and former prostitutes, recount the ferment in the Tenderloin in the 1960s as well as the growing sense of dignity among transgender people. But in the summer of 1966, many others, including most San Francisco police officers, did not share these new ideas. By bringing these social and political tensions to light, Screaming Queens offers viewers a fuller understanding of the events and conditions that led up to the riot.

    Further, Screaming Queens explores the reverberations, both large and small, of the rise of transgender activism, a story in which the riot at Compton’s Cafeteria plays a pivotal role. Sgt. Blackstone tells of singing “We Shall Overcome” with Tenderloin activists who successfully fought for new social services for their community. Suzie Cooke recounts her job as a transsexual counselor in one of the new agencies founded after the riot. Ching connects the Tenderloin transsexuals’ new activism to the rising Gay liberation movement. And St. Jaymes explains that although the queens from Compton’s were “wild as the wind,” they were “determined to make something of themselves, and be something other than prostitutes.”

    …This important documentary tells a forgotten San Francisco story of dramatic social change from the compelling perspective of firsthand participants. The film’s story focuses on the experiences of the rioters themselves, the police and the social-activist clergy members. It also follows historian Susan Stryker’s rediscovery of the 1966 disturbance at Compton’s Cafeteria. At that time, transgender people faced serious employment discrimination, police harassment and other difficulties. The program’s subjects describe the challenging circumstances and the misconduct of officials that drove them to take militant action in the streets. Screaming Queens then examines the significant changes — in police practices, social services and self-image — that came out of the conflict. In her story within the story, Stryker reveals how the Compton’s Cafeteria riot, although not as large as New York’s Stonewall conflict, was a dramatic turning point in a decades-long process of transgender community formation and political mobilization in San Francisco, a process that involved dramatic changes in medical practices, urban politics, neighborhood geography and public consciousness.

    History Professor Susan Striker (a transsexual herself) was one of the producers of the documentary Screaming Queens. She also wrote about the Compton’s Cafeteria Riot in her book Transgender History — specifically in Chapter 3, entitled Transgender Liberation.

    And by the way, the gay males, the drag queens, the “transgenderists,” and transsexuals who were the people in Vanguard, and the people of the Compton’s Cafeteria Riot, were mostly by people of color.

    Seriously Aria, you don’t know your history if you don’t know that the liberation of gays, transsexuals, and other transgender-identified people began in a single liberation movement. The Compton’s Cafeteria Riot was an example of where all of the liberation movements regarding to sex and gender intersected, and began from the same seed of liberation.

    • Aria Blue says:

      I don’t know my gay history, you mean. You should have more conversations with some of the gay guys who were around those places when the gay movement really got started. They tell a very different story about who did what, and “trannys” do not figure into the picture.

      Then again, this argumentis all about transsexual as a birth condition and the legal provisions put in place to help us. These legal provisions existed before the gay movement, some in the 1950’s, and were largely complete before the gay movement absorbed the transsexuals. This of course was followed by the replacement of transsexuals with the transgender construct, a somewhat separate follow-on issue.

      That’s all there really is to it. Since the last of these accommodations were made, the TG have batted pretty close to 0% in getting anything new for themselves and have succeeded in rolling back progress for transsexuals in a few places. It is certainly not the case that legislatures and government administrators had in mind putting laws in place to help crossdressers. Any claim of victory by the TG/trans* activists when standards for ID’s are changed to help transsexuals is simply spin and rewriting of current events and history.

      Once again, the laws and rules that do exist to help people change sex were not put into place to help gay men or lesbian women, or crossdressers. While it would be nice if we had more control over our own lives in general, it simply isn’t true that government entities in the United States want to liberalize ID rules to the point where they become meaningless as they would under the transgender rubric.

      You continue to confuse transsexual for transgender, and until you redress this misrepresentation and admit there is such a thing as transsexual separate from trans*/transgender there probably is little else to say. I simply don’t care about gay history. It has nothing to do with women like me.

      As of today, trans*=gay. And that’s probably the way it will be forever.

    • SA-ET says:

      “One of the things that changed for transsexuals just before the Compton’s Cafeteria Riot was that Dr. Harry Benjamin’s book, The Transsexual Phenomenon, had been recently published…”

      Well, both occurred in 1966…Compton’s riot in August; Benjamin’s book was published in Spring of 1966. It’s more than a bit disingenuous to assume that a newly published book, out for only several months would change the course of history in just a few months. I was around during that time and it was early 1968 before I laid my hands on a copy. Few true transsexuals had ever heard of Benjamin’s book in August of 1966 that’s for sure.

      As for this statement:

      “Seriously Aria, you don’t know your history if you don’t know that the liberation of gays, transsexuals, and other transgender-identified people began in a single liberation movement.”

      Oh! Really! Let’s see, Illinois had recognized transsexuals and changed birth certificates since 1961…Arizona in 1967…and Louisiana, specifically for post ops could marry heterosexually, in 1968…all with no help from the GLB…you can see that here, by the way, on page 411 at this link, complete with footnotes of the source:

      http://www.deakin.edu.au/buslaw/law/dlr/pdf_files/vol9_iss2/8.pdf

      Exactly where was the GLB movement back then, Autumn? Of course you won’t respond here, you never do, only choosing to drop your comments on our blogs as if they are Gospel and then move on, refusing to engage in debate. But obviously it’s you who need to review your history. Your precious GLB and homosexual transgender has done nothing but bring down transsexuals for the past 15 years.

      The trouble with you, Autumn, and others, is that you feel if you say it long enough and loud enough history will be what you revise it to, not what it actually was. Back when many of us were going through this weren’t you playing in the Navy…you weren’t there. Neither was Susan Stryker, Julia Seranol, Kate Bornstein and most of the other transgender “experts”…expert by not other qualification that being transgender themselves. Whether the GLBT and you personally want to believe it or not, there was a time when there were transsexuals and crossdressers/transvestites…that’s it. The gays knew of this division and the transvestites knew of this division; it was acknowledged and it was no big deal…there was no continuum. Transsexuals had their issues and the GLB/crossdressers had theirs. The GLB was way behind the curve fighting for what they wanted while the true transsexuals were well on their way.

      That’s the way it was…whether you like it or not.

      • Aria Blue says:

        Thank you SA ET, it’s awesome that there are people like you who know the truth and can pointedly show how false the revisionist history of the TG is. The only way to marry transsexual to transgender is to reinterpret all the actions undertaken by and for transsexuals as those of the latter-day creation, the transgender. And the only way to marry transsexuals to the gay movement is to interpret transgender as a category of gay. That’s why they do it, to the detriment of both our groups to benefit theirs. Over, and over, and over. But it isn’t working anymore.

        I think it’s high time that the gay movement and transsexuals part company; we will both be better off for it. The only ones who stand to lose from this eventuality, which I think is inevitable, is the wholly-created trans*/transgender group. They are the ones dragging the GLBT down and holding back equal rights by their insistence that their maladaption to being gay or a crossdresser is the same as being born gay or lesbian.

        Transgender isn’t real. It’s behavioral, not an innate aspect of a human being. You can do it if you want in our open and tolerant society, but that doesn’t mean you should. Eventually they will go too far and find out what an intolerant society looks like. There is no transgender gene, just as there is no gene for wearing frillies. Trans* is simply a bad lifestyle choice.

        • Aria Blue says:

          “If a situation is perceived as real, it is real in its consequences.”

          This is the transgender problem in a nutshell. This simply isn’t true, and the overarching suggestion is even more disingenuous. The trans* posture is to impose an idea on other people by force of will and propaganda. Never mind that the idea is ludicrous, it will be true if we can convince enough people it is true. The time for that sort of performance art is over.

          Furthermore, I highly doubt that drag queens and crossdressers were the least bit interested in getting the change of sex designation on birth certificates and heterosexual marriage that the transsexuals pursued. They don’t care now, why would they have cared then? You never see the GLBT types pushing for transsexual men and women to have full rights as men and women. They cynically use us for their own same sex marriage ends when its convenient. It is not in the interests of the GLBT to free us from those bonds, so they will keep us chained themselves. I have to admit a bit of schadenfreude at their having the same issues with the Democrats- with the caveat that we never sought out membership in the GLBT party en masse the way that the GLBT was thoughtlessly in the bag for Democrats all these years.

          Since you are eternally unwilling to concede the essential inborn nature of transsexualism, and that trans/transgender identity is simply a fashion statement, I doubt this conversation will be productive. Please do carry on elsewhere unless you have something more interesting to add.

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