There is something profoundly disturbing to women about transvestites. Most women don’t deal with that issue much and they express little more than annoyance, or perhaps laughter, at the sight of a man in women’s clothes. But by virtue of our exposure to transvestites which often occurs if you follow the conventional wisdom for transition, some transsexual women develop an unwanted familiarity with the subject. That, plus the fact that at every turn transvestite men attempt to own us.
So let me enlighten you transvestite men about they way you appear to the women who find you upsetting. It’s the fact that you turn us into objects, hollow us out, climb inside and then act out a caricature of who we are. It’s repulsive. It’s scary. And a lot of us instinctively feel it can be dangerous for some of you who take it too far.
“Jack Molay” writes a blog dedicated to attaching transvestism to transsexualism, and trying to entice transvestites to continue colonizing the transsexual birth condition, while trying to blur the lines between two completely different things. Lines that would not exist to be blurred if these sorts of people did not create the false connection in the first place. Molay writes:
The myth says that crossdressers and crossdreamers (men who get aroused by the idea of being a woman) become what they are when puberty hits. The myth is wrong.
There are to many crossdreamer childhood stories around for this to be true.
The fact is that there are a lot of people, researchers as well as transwomen, who deny that M2F crossdressers and crossdreamers experienced gender dysphoria or gender confusion when they are kids. The idea is that since crossdreamers are purely sexually motivated, their fantasies and dreams cannot appear before puberty.
I do not doubt for a minute that some crossdreamers wanting to transition told the doctors what the doctors wanted to hear. Why shouldn’t they, when the doctors at hand were so hung up in 19th century stereotypes of what it means to be a man or a woman?
But that does not mean that their childhood memories were false. Given the stories told on this site, and all the crossdreamers I have been in contact with, I can say with 100 percent certainty that yes, many crossdreamers dreamed of being girls at a very early age.
And from this you can see where it is going. Much the way “autogynephilia”, an iatrogenic condition created by “researchers”, mimics classic transsexuality, the AGP preachers mimic the standard transsexual narrative. Notice the attempt to join the idea of AGP to childhood. It’s simply a rewriting of the transsexual narrative into an autogynephilic narrative. Just the way transvestites write themselves into women when they desire.
It’s important to differentiate between transvestites and transsexuals in this particular area because a lot of the AGP “symptoms” are taken directly from TS “symptoms”. This is an attempt to trick TS women who are in the process of figuring things out into thinking they are merely “AGP”, so that they will pursue their surgery under AGP protocols. If you look at the list of things claimed by “AGP” and find some of your experiences there, don’t just jump to the conclusion that’s who you are. AGP is a carefully constructed trap that you should simply just ignore once you are satisfied as to your true state. And you don’t need to worry about it.
The diagnostic is simple. If you are attracted to yourself as a woman, meaning you fancy yourself for a shag when “dressed”, you are a transvestite. If you do not experience this, but have other sexual feelings perhaps related to your “condition” in your mind, you should explore the other alternatives. It is entirely possible that the odd condition of having a particular neurology, mixed with the attitudes society hold, plus our innate primate nature, can produce any number of “symptoms” for transsexualism. It is also possible that “gender issues” are related to difficulties some gay men have in dealing with society’s homophobia. As humans we internalize a great many things, and living with them can be difficult.
What makes this troubling at this point is that it is a continuation of the transvestite behavior that lead to the current situation in the first place. Men want to domiate the transsexual issue for their own purposes. See this?
Some of these narratives point to a childhood that is similar to the ones reported for androphilic transkids and classic transsexuals. That is, there seems to be at least three categories:(1) Those kids that appear as “normal” boys, taking part in rough and tumble play etc. etc.(2) Those that “pass” as boys, but display some “girl-like” behavior. They avoid rough and tumble play and do prefer more peaceful activities. I was one of them myself – a kind of “proto-nerd”, I guess. I preferred drawing to soccer and skiing, but also found building model warplanes a good thing.(3) Those who clearly identify with girls, often cross-dress as kids and prefer playing with girls.
These are not absolute categories, I believe, but more like a gradual continuum.
This is a shmoozing of the TG continuum back into the picture. It’s designed to appeal to people who find comfort in the idea of a spectrum. And these quotes from the comments on that post:
On the contrary,TG is a much broader umbrella term that refers to not just the transsexuals who are at the most extreme end, but to those who for various reasons exhibit an interest in cross-gender expressions.
Afterall,I would like you to know that it is not only transsexuals who are discriminated against in society.
Transvestites are discriminated against, transsexual issues aren’t really that big a deal.
Your comments illustrate to me the issue in getting the data. We have taken ‘transsexual’ and made it the exclusive property of those who never question their feelings or the difficulties of the life of medical intervention.
It’s not fair that transsexuals have something that we don’t. We need to take it from them. And that’s the transvestite way.
This is how men talk themselves into doing things to other people. This is also how men commonly excuse their abuse, though because this is still a theoretical position and not a situation involving specific people, its not entirely “fair” to characterize it like that here. I just want to illustrate the parallels to this male behavior, and try to show some people why as women we find it upsetting.
The people “crossdreaming” is designed to entice are those crossdressing men who want to find a way to excuse their behavior. Just like the earlier problems between transvestites and transsexual women, this is a case of identity theft. I find it reprehensible that people like Jack Molay write blogs that attempt to erase us and take “our” issue. Yes, Jack, transsexualism belongs to those who suffer from it. You don’t get to waltz in and take ownership of a condition you don’t have.
There is no such thing as “crossdreaming”, because there is no such thing as “autogynephilia” in the sense pushed by these “reasearchers” such as Blanchard. If you are a transvestite who has moved on to getting hormones and surgery, you remain a transvestite. If you are a transsexual woman who has various “symptoms”, you remain a transsexual woman. These people don’t get to own your experiences, and they certainly don’t get to own you.
Each person knows deep down which of these they are. If you don’t want to be a “crossdreamer”, and instead think you are transsexual, then toe the line and do what transsexuals do. Otherwise all of this is simply nonsense and hardly matters anyway. Men’s issues should not eclipse women’s issues, no matter how angry at us they get.
“Try walking in my shoes, and you’ll stumble in my footsteps.”